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Declined Please Stop Spawncamping Period I Beg you

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I’m sorry for my blow up yesterday on the the administration and staff.

I work at my job before I come on to play in wonderland severs Primarily for as many do to relax and have fun. I work a thankless job manufacturing pens.

Believe it or not I have a life outside the game as and this week I’ve had to deal with machines consistently breaking down and thus putting me behind on production And or most often then not; halting production entirely putting my bosses entire buisness behind on production.

I come in wonderland servers to relax and have fun not to have my entire day ruined by people trapping me in spawn and having no way of getting out.

I know I was unreasonable And took It overboard when I first went first went to you about this problem that was because the stress from work was getting to me not allowing me to think straight. But for a second put yourself in my shoes.

You bust your ass all day In a job that noone would ever think to thank you and your reward when you get home is to have someone to shit all over your day when your workday was already stressful.

I think you should think about because I’ma person with a life outside of tf2 just like you who doesn’t like being put through bullshit like that in a game And server group they come into to play and relax in.
 

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Spawncamping is something that will always be present on maps like trade plaza due to how those maps are, and in general it will always be present in a game with players having access to spawns in general. My suggestion is to play on surf servers when people extensively spawncamp or use the !friendly mode to not get camped and just in general dont let death in a game become more than what it is, if you find something frustrating try to understand why it frustrates you and how you can mitigate it, because I believe that this post will not make an impact on hundreds of players who dont even know of the forum's existence
 
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As @fsq stated, there will always be spawn camping. If one team coordinates a lot better than another team, it will cause the worse team to be pushed back to their spawn, causing a spawn camp.
Although it sucks to be on the team that is being spawn camped, there is a very easy solution: Make a medic on that team to get full uber (Or you can go medic and get uber), which then you can pop the uber and pretty much kill the whole enemy team.
Because it is part of many games and there is an easy way to counter it, I will give this:
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As @fsq stated, there will always be spawn camping. If one team coordinates a lot better than another team, it will cause the worse team to be pushed back to their spawn, causing a spawn camp.
Although it sucks to be on the team that is being spawn camped, there is a very easy solution: Make a medic on that team to get full uber (Or you can go medic and get uber), which then you can pop the uber and pretty much kill the whole enemy team.
Because it is part of many games and there is an easy way to counter it, I will give this:
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Wow not even an attempt to sympathize or empathize. Cant say i'm surprised. I held out hope you'd actually listen if i posted it here. As expected posting it here got me nowhere.
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Well thanks for telling me to do something that was utterly pointless @The Orange Birb. Really appreciate the waste of my time.
 
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Wow not even an attempt to sympathize or empathize.
I think you feel to understand, I'm going to vote yes because 1 person feels like this and have a mechanic significantly changed. I am voting on the basis of facts not feelings. It would be unwise to do that, but since you want this.

Pros. Less reports

neutrals. none

Cons- It's a tatic of playing and is quite easy to counter.
Its a fun way to relax and enjoy the time.
You want this removed on the basis that you think that this is annoying and provided and proofs for me to vote a +1.

I think you fail to understand something, If you have a bad day. Doesn't give you the right to do anything bad yourself. We all have to get over it. I had to learn that and eventually you will. While i feel bad for you. I have a extremely awkward life that i wouldnt feel comfortable sharing nevertheless i dont want to go off topic. -1.
 
I think you feel to understand, I'm going to vote yes because 1 person feels like this and have a mechanic significantly changed. I am voting on the basis of facts not feelings. It would be unwise to do that, but since you want this.

Pros. Less reports

neutrals. none

Cons- It's a tatic of playing and is quite easy to counter.
Its a fun way to relax and enjoy the time.
You want this removed on the basis that you think that this is annoying and provided and proofs for me to vote a +1.

I think you fail to understand something, If you have a bad day. Doesn't give you the right to do anything bad yourself. We all have to get over it. I had to learn that and eventually you will. While i feel bad for you. I have a extremely awkward life that i wouldnt feel comfortable sharing nevertheless i dont want to go off topic. -1.

Posting suggestions was a waste of my time as i expected you'd be completely partisan and unwilling to come to a compromise it was pointless even trying to reason with any of you because it clearly doesnt work.

By the way i apologized about yesterday because i felt bad i didnt handle it property and hoped if i approached this calmly you'd understand me. Its not me who fails to understand its you who fails to understand me.
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You guys sent me on a wild goose chase to the suggestion sub-forum to only meet me with the same sort of crap i was arguing with you over yesterday. You deliberately wasted my time without even entertaining the thought how this would lead to less toxic bullshit in the community just as yesterday you dismiss me outright.

I cant believe you. What are you? Children? Do you not know how to reflect on things you see in the community? Why should anyone come to suggestions and suggest anything to you if you are going to be so dismissive and short sighted about the things they have to say. I was trying to be calm and polite in this post i even apologized and was met with the same stuff from last time.

Do you get your jollies from deliberately and maliciously wasting peoples time? Spawncamping is not just an issue for me alone on your servers and just because these people who dont like it dont speak out about it because they arent aware of this forum doesn't mean you should sweep them under the rug like last weeks sawdust. You didnt even attempt to empathize with me and step into my shoes because as i had said before the only time you care about anything that happens in your servers is if it happens to you then you do something about it.

I'm done trying to reason with the unreasonable.
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Posting suggestions was a waste of my time as i expected you'd be completely partisan and unwilling to come to a compromise it was pointless even trying to reason with any of you because it clearly doesnt work.

By the way i apologized about yesterday because i felt bad i didnt handle it property and hoped if i approached this calmly you'd understand me. Its not me who fails to understand its you who fails to understand me.
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You guys sent me on a wild goose chase to the suggestion sub-forum to only meet me with the same sort of crap i was arguing with you over yesterday. You deliberately wasted my time without even entertaining the thought how this would lead to less toxic bullshit in the community just as yesterday you dismiss me outright.

I cant believe you. What are you? Children? Do you not know how to reflect on things you see in the community? Why should anyone come to suggestions and suggest anything to you if you are going to be so dismissive and short sighted about the things they have to say. I was trying to be calm and polite in this post i even apologized and was met with the same stuff from last time.

Do you get your jollies from deliberately and maliciously wasting peoples time? Spawncamping is not just an issue for me alone on your servers and just because these people who dont like it dont speak out about it because they arent aware of this forum doesn't mean you should sweep them under the rug like last weeks sawdust. You didnt even attempt to empathize with me and step into my shoes because as i had said before the only time you care about anything that happens in your servers is if it happens to you then you do something about it.

I'm done trying to reason with the unreasonable.

Get back to me when you are willing to actually give a shit about what i say instead of dismissing me like im sort of idiot or buffoon. Im tired of all of you treating what im asking to be done like a cardinal sin against your community because its not its rather reasonable.
 
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Posting suggestions was a waste of my time as i expected you'd be completely partisan and unwilling to come to a compromise it was pointless even trying to reason with any of you because it clearly doesnt work.

By the way i apologized about yesterday because i felt bad i didnt handle it property and hoped if i approached this calmly you'd understand me. Its not me who fails to understand its you who fails to understand me.
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You guys sent me on a wild goose chase to the suggestion sub-forum to only meet me with the same sort of crap i was arguing with you over yesterday. You deliberately wasted my time without even entertaining the thought how this would lead to less toxic bullshit in the community just as yesterday you dismiss me outright.

I cant believe you. What are you? Children? Do you not know how to reflect on things you see in the community? Why should anyone come to suggestions and suggest anything to you if you are going to be so dismissive and short sighted about the things they have to say. I was trying to be calm and polite in this post i even apologized and was met with the same stuff from last time.

Do you get your jollies from deliberately and maliciously wasting peoples time? Spawncamping is not just an issue for me alone on your servers and just because these people who dont like it dont speak out about it because they arent aware of this forum doesn't mean you should sweep them under the rug like last weeks sawdust. You didnt even attempt to empathize with me and step into my shoes because as i had said before the only time you care about anything that happens in your servers is if it happens to you then you do something about it.

I'm done trying to reason with the unreasonable.
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Get back to me when you are willing to actually give a shit about what i say instead of dismissing me like im sort of idiot or buffoon. Im tired of all of you treating what im asking to be done like a cardinal sin against your community because its not its rather reasonable. Because screw listening understanding and considering anything that is suggested by anyone outside your fucking friend circles.
 

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Ok so, you apologised and you suggested the idea rather than complaining about how it was, thats great. You have made a big step in the right direction. However it is not as simple as one person saying this should be changed, what about all the people who like it as it is? Should we completely ignore their opinion just to please one person? The thing with these kinds of rules is that we try to balance it in a way where most people can find something they enjoy. Sure some people might not like how it works but other people do, thats why you can not try and force a suggestion through.

I do agree that some of these people should maybe have waited before commenting on it and letting people who were not involved in the discussion yesterday get a chance to reply first. But there are also a couple new people here which was not involved and this proves that there are people who like the rules as they are.

Sometimes you simply can not change everything to your liking because others don't feel the same way, its nothing against you its just that they prefer the rules this way. I appreciate that you went through the effort of suggesting, but sometimes it just doesn't work out and I'm sorry to say, this seems like one of those cases.
 
Ok so, you apologised and you suggested the idea rather than complaining about how it was, thats great. You have made a big step in the right direction. However it is not as simple as one person saying this should be changed, what about all the people who like it as it is? Should we completely ignore their opinion just to please one person? The thing with these kinds of rules is that we try to balance it in a way where most people can find something they enjoy. Sure some people might not like how it works but other people do, thats why you can not try and force a suggestion through.

I do agree that some of these people should maybe have waited before commenting on it and letting people who were not involved in the discussion yesterday get a chance to reply first. But there are also a couple new people here which was not involved and this proves that there are people who like the rules as they are.

Sometimes you simply can not change everything to your liking because others don't feel the same way, its nothing against you its just that they prefer the rules this way. I appreciate that you went through the effort of suggesting, but sometimes it just doesn't work out and I'm sorry to say, this seems like one of those cases.

Spawncamping is not just an issue for me alone on your servers and just because these people who dont like it dont speak out about it because they arent aware of this forum doesn't mean you should sweep them under the rug like last weeks sawdust.
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Reason why? Its intellectually dishonest and i despise intellectually dishonest people.
 

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Reason why? Its intellectually dishonest.
How can we trust someone saying "tons of people agree with me" without seeing any sort of evidence towards this claim?
I am all for listening to people but if we can't even see them talking about it, or mentioning it at all we can not base anything onto that.

Anyone can make a claim saying "lots of people agree" for every single arguement.
 
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@Steam Just a Sylveon Imagine attacking people for having a different opinion than you...

Also, your "apology" seems to be a fake one, as you just went back at it again. Next time, understand people will not always have the same opinion as you. That's reality.

Might as well give this another -1.


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How can we trust someone saying "tons of people agree with me" without seeing any sort of evidence towards this claim?
I am all for listening to people but if we can't even see them talking about it, or mentioning it at all we can not base anything onto that.

Anyone can make a claim saying "lots of people agree" for every single arguement.

I dont know go out and spectate your servers every so often when you are able to like responsible moderators and administrators. Dont just wear these titles like badges to make you look cool take on the responsibilities they entail because i guarantee you will see people complaining about spawn camping all the time. Dont just rely on input on this forum because again its intellectually dishonest and unfair to the people who play on your servers and arent a part of this forum. I yelled at you guys the other day because whenever something goes wrong for instance i report an aimbotter and you guys let him free as a bird to pull his shit because noone was recording because they were to busy and focused on the game it is absolutely blood boiling because the people who saw him doing it have to watch him using his aimbot again because you decided to let the bastard free.

Im am justified in being outraged because whenever i come up to anyone from your moderator or administration team for any help regarding the game. You guys either A. Let the problem continue untill it pisses everyone on the team im playing on and or the others i wouldnt tolerate this crap from either team. Not my own not the opposite. or B. Tell me to fuck off and ban me.

Understandably after multiple occurrences of you not doing a damn thing to stop problems like this has gotten me peeved to the point id even blow up like i did. And being spawn camped by one of your own server mods was the straw that broke my back.

If you cant find it in you to admit that you are not infallible , not exempt from making mistakes, or only getting the story from one end of the pond. I don't know what to tell you because honestly if you let this stuff continue the toxicity you guys have in your rules as a no no as its not allowed. The longer that you continually let people get away with this crap the longer this toxicity will last. The root cause of toxicity are the people you allow to spawn camp and openly say they dont mind it and stomp entire teams into the ground these are the people you guys let get away with aimbotting my entire fucking damn team as well as the opposite team.

Instead of treating me like im a fucking crazy loon who doesnt know anything why dont you and your mods do what your dang jobs are and observe. Just like you say you cant just always trust one person you cant just trust that your server moderators are always doing right by the players they join in on. Moderators jobs are to monitor things so things dont get out of control. im tired of getting banned for reporting obvious offenders tired of moderators flipping me the bird and letting these offenders free.

I have reached my limit of tolerance for your repeated dismissal of my legitimate grievances and so are many others who play on your servers whos guts you let aimbotters and spawn campers stomp into the ground.
 
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