Major Map Fix Suggestions (Any Gamemode)

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Hey guys. I've offered to fix any maps that have some major issues with them for any gamemode. If you can think of any issues or problems with a map here in WLN that need to be fixed then reply to this thread with a detailed description of the problem and the map's name or file name. I'll be editing this thread with a list of the maps and their problems as we go along. R4 has given me the green light to fix any maps that have major issues with them so if you can think of any problem, big or small, post it here. If a map amasses enough problems or has some big problems, then I will fix it.

EDIT: I am also taking suggestions for additions to the map. If you have any ideas that would be good for one of the maps then suggest that as well.
 

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casurina with that mario party game, kinda broken
weird, that one

get rid of the little house for arena on casurina too
 
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  1. Fix Russian Roulette.
  2. Fix doors that kill you when you did door glitch. (Crush Game door etc.)
  3. Remove Sacrifice at the Obby.
  4. Remove 3 doors at Deadrun or change it to 2 doors.
  5. Remove door push at end of the deadrun.
  6. Remove door pushes on obby.
  7. Remove doors that outside of Jail Area.
  8. Remove Adolf Hitler in the cells.
  9. Fix /open command.
  10. Remove sentry on obby. It might give you ammo.
  11. Fix Sweeper.
  12. Add random health packs to minefield.
  13. Make more hard to made Toilet-Tardis Easter Egg.

Extra
  1. Add a fence that blocks finish dodgeball. Will be removed when someone sends rock.
  2. Make disco inside of jail area.
  3. Add MINE DIAMONDS | minECRAFT Parody song to the disco.
  4. Add Cell-Class System. 1th Cell: Scout, 2nd cell: Soldier etc.
  5. Make Cells bigger.
  6. Add something to cells that we can stand on it. So we will be able to make lava day.
  7. Open Cells Door Button will be red at first 10 secs after new round starts. If you activate this button while its red, you will teleported to start of obby.
  8. Add supermarket at the out of the Jell Area. You can find HP packs from this.
  9. Also there are a room that under the Pool. Make a way to acces there.
  10. Make Arena better.
  11. Make Über Sniper Tardis Easter Egg teleports you to inside of GUNZ Shop.
 
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Soem of those are a feature of Casuarina, the sacrifice is kinda needed. Door pushes stop backtracking. The sentry on obby will not die by sapping so never gives ammo. making the button red on Casuarina may limit how often people want to play hide and seek or auschwitz day because of the delay. Some players already have access to a /open command, especially the warden.

A fix i'd like for Mlcastle would be to remove the ammo from the destructible tree near minefiled. If at all possible, remove the lethal door crushing and instead only do damage to avoid door glitching.
 

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The sentry on obby will not die by sapping so never gives ammo
I saw someone that collect ammo from sentry, with destroying sentry with melee.
making the button red on Casuarina may limit how often people want to play hide and seek or auschwitz day because of the delay.
Its just 10 sec and warden can use /open.
Some players already have access to a /open command, especially the warden.
"This command isnt working on this map." writes if you write /open.
Warden can say "no backtrabbing."
sacrifice is kinda needed
Its unfair. You finished obby and obby wants to you kill yourself.
A fix i'd like for Mlcastle would be to remove the ammo from the destructible tree near minefiled
I didnt like this. Its just a little ammo pack and you can't kill a blu with that easily.

Also, writing @Kumpir isnt sending to notifaction to me.
 
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#6
On Minecraft_night just board up the house to stop the exploit from happening so people cant get in :D
 

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Please keep the thread to suggestions and fix requests only please. I'll respond to any suggestion that needs a response. Since I can't edit my own post, I'll put this here until I can. According to R4 I CANNOT MAKE BALANCE CHANGES TO THE MAP. This means I cannot add/remove any extra ways for prisoners/guards to receive health/ammo. When I am back at my desktop I will properly respond to all the suggestions and fix requests saying whether they are doable or not. Thanks for the suggestions and requests so far. Keep them coming.
 
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#8
Change the buttons on Blu Side dodgeball to be damage only so you can't spam +use and kill all reds
 

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#9
On the map dr_minecraft_redux_b9 there's a commonly used map exploit where users can go onto the trees near the beginning of the map and from there enter where the death is. Here's a recent report someone made regarding the exploit that provides screenshots of what I'm talking about: https://wonderland.tf/threads/being-able-to-glitch-inside-blu-deathrun-spawn.588. Would be really helpful to get this fixed seeing as how this is pretty much always an issue when the map is being played on the Deathrun server.
 

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On the map dr_minecraft_redux_b9 there's a commonly used map exploit where users can go onto the trees near the beginning of the map and from there enter where the death is. Here's a recent report someone made regarding the exploit that provides screenshots of what I'm talking about: https://wonderland.tf/threads/being-able-to-glitch-inside-blu-deathrun-spawn.588. Would be really helpful to get this fixed seeing as how this is pretty much always an issue when the map is being played on the Deathrun server.
Ye and remove runner from dr_aconian.
And remove dr_factory.
 

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casurina with that mario party game, kinda broken
weird, that one

get rid of the little house for arena on casurina too
Approved. I'll look into what is wrong with this minigame and see what can be done for it. If anyone is wondering, he is refering to Shock, Drop, and Roll.

  1. Fix Russian Roulette.
  2. Fix doors that kill you when you did door glitch. (Crush Game door etc.)
  3. Remove Sacrifice at the Obby.
  4. Remove 3 doors at Deadrun or change it to 2 doors.
  5. Remove door push at end of the deadrun.
  6. Remove door pushes on obby.
  7. Remove doors that outside of Jail Area.
  8. Remove Adolf Hitler in the cells.
  9. Fix /open command.
  10. Remove sentry on obby. It might give you ammo.
  11. Fix Sweeper.
  12. Add random health packs to minefield.
  13. Make more hard to made Toilet-Tardis Easter Egg.
Extra
  1. Add a fence that blocks finish dodgeball. Will be removed when someone sends rock.
  2. Make disco inside of jail area.
  3. Add MINE DIAMONDS | minECRAFT Parody song to the disco.
  4. Add Cell-Class System. 1th Cell: Scout, 2nd cell: Soldier etc.
  5. Make Cells bigger.
  6. Add something to cells that we can stand on it. So we will be able to make lava day.
  7. Open Cells Door Button will be red at first 10 secs after new round starts. If you activate this button while its red, you will teleported to start of obby.
  8. Add supermarket at the out of the Jell Area. You can find HP packs from this.
  9. Also there are a room that under the Pool. Make a way to acces there.
  10. Make Arena better.
  11. Make Über Sniper Tardis Easter Egg teleports you to inside of GUNZ Shop.
1. Approved.
2. Approved.
3. Denied. When there is one person left in Obstacle Course, they get LR, win or lose. I don't think this needs to be removed for that reason.
4. Undecided. I'll discuss this one with R4 and see what he thinks.
5. Approved. The push is pointless.
6. Approved. Same reason as 5.
7. Undecided. I'm not quite sure what you mean by this. More explanation will be needed.
8. Approved.
9. Approved. I'll see what can be done to make this work properly.
10. Denied. Could be seen as potential balance shift.
11. Approved.
12. Denied. Balance shift.
13. Denied. Balance shift. If R4 thinks that this is a good idea then I will discuss it with him.

Extras
1. Approved.
2. Approved.
3. Undecided. Not completely important. If I have the time then I will do this because it doesn't create a shift in balance or anything like that.
4. Undecided. Not completely important. If I can figure this out and if I'm provided good reason to do this then I will do this.
5. Approved.
6. Approved.
7. Approved. But I will play around with the setting. I think 10 seconds is too much but it wouldn't matter if /open works.
8. Denied. Balance shift.
9. Undecided. I'm not sure whether you are saying a room currently exists or you would like me to make one but I will look into this.
10. Approved. I will need more details on what needs to change though.
11. Undecided. I am not 100% familiar with how this Easter egg works so I will need an explanation but this could potentially create a balance shift so this will most likely be denied.
 

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Change the buttons on Blu Side dodgeball to be damage only so you can't spam +use and kill all reds
Approved. I'll see what can be done about this.

On the map dr_minecraft_redux_b9 there's a commonly used map exploit where users can go onto the trees near the beginning of the map and from there enter where the death is. Here's a recent report someone made regarding the exploit that provides screenshots of what I'm talking about: https://wonderland.tf/threads/being-able-to-glitch-inside-blu-deathrun-spawn.588. Would be really helpful to get this fixed seeing as how this is pretty much always an issue when the map is being played on the Deathrun server.
Approved. I'll look into what causes this.

Ye and remove runner from dr_aconian.
And remove dr_factory.
1. Undecided. By runner I'm assuming you mean the thing that kills slow people and AFK people. I will need more information on this and why you think it should be removed.
2. Denied. I don't have the ability to remove a map from rotation.
 

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Extras 4 for balancing cell warz. So, spies will fight spies, medics will fight medics. We dont like Spy v. Heavy, right?

There are doors that out of jail area, like gunz shop's door. You can block this door and delay the round. You cant kill someone that blocks:
Disco door and toilet easter egg room door. Removing it will be good.

Easter Egg works with playing music on theatrer and hitting über sniper. Door will open and now you can go to the tardis. This will teleport you to out of jail area.

Mine Diamonds? Its just earrape song. Cancer giver. We dont need it. Just a meme.
 

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Extras 4 for balancing cell warz. So, spies will fight spies, medics will fight medics. We dont like Spy v. Heavy, right?

There are doors that out of jail area, like gunz shop's door. You can block this door and delay the round.

Easter Egg works with playing music on theatrer and hitting über sniper. Door will open and now you can go to the tardis. This will teleport you to out of jail area.
1. Approved. I'll look into this.
2. Undecided. I'll look into better alternatives for the doors but delaying is against the rules anyways I'm pretty sure so this doesn't really matter.
3. Denied. I remember which Easter egg you are talking about now. This would too easily create a balance shift.
 

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1. Undecided. By runner I'm assuming you mean the thing that kills slow people and AFK people. I will need more information on this and why you think it should be removed
Because its too fast. And if death didnt activate the 2 door trap, reds move next rooms. Blu can wait runner and runner will kill them all. And, we were fast but runner caught we. Its really too fast, just we have one way to complete this dr map, freerun. Also, minigame is broken. Its breaks 3 block someone else in a row, breaks 1 other people.
I don't have the ability to remove a map from rotation.
I didnt know why i added this thing. Plz admin, its worst dr map and very low quality. 6 trap door dafuq
 

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I'd like to point out this should be, least in my eyes, for fixing maps. I'd prefer we have separate suggestions that are voted on by multiple people if it's a unneeded change or it's an "extra."

For example, regarding changing the amount of deathrun doors, that isn't really a fix as it works fine as it is. Also for the push on the doors, I guess it's not entirely needed but I don't see any reason to change it & it does serve a function of pushing players out of the course & preventing REDs/BLUs from entering through the back.
 

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I'd like to point out this should be, least in my eyes, for fixing maps. I'd prefer we have separate suggestions that are voted on by multiple people if it's a unneeded change or it's an "extra."

For example, regarding changing the amount of deathrun doors, that isn't really a fix as it works fine as it is. Also for the push on the doors, I guess it's not entirely needed but I don't see any reason to change it & it does serve a function of pushing players out of the course & preventing REDs/BLUs from entering through the back.
No, they are pointless. We can walk, we isnt need for a push. 3 doors is pretty annoying and devil. So, nobody wants to pass. Like sacrifice thing.
 

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I have made another thread for discussions. Please use that one to talk. Only fix requests and suggestions from this point onward. Thank you.
 
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