u making 0 sense man :(you may not be the only person who supports a change but there's nothing good about it, legit you wasted a thread
u making 0 sense man :(you may not be the only person who supports a change but there's nothing good about it, legit you wasted a thread
pretty sure u’re joking rnnobody is gonna change the default stats on the gardener and there's virtually no reason to change something that isnt broken, so... like.... what else do you want me to say
if for the 1% you're not joking, then here is a response:nobody is gonna change the default stats on the gardener and there's virtually no reason to change something that isnt broken, so... like.... what else do you want me to say
elaborate on this too plzyou may not be the only person who supports a change but there's nothing good about it, legit you wasted a thread
i don't rlly think he is fine where he is. I mean he can do his job for sure as a roamer, but it can definitely be balanced up. Just one tweak and he'll be perfect; a high risk - high reward class.Trolldier is fine as he is no need for buffs or anything. You really just have to bait people a lot to go a certain direction.
then maybe dont play trolldier on jailbreak
any updates on you two? I gave you my logic. now i'm waiting for your guys counter explanations. tyjust get good lol
Than in that case shouldn’t spy be buffed because he has very low health and some weapons that put him at very low health and can only effectively kill people with back stabs and using his revolver? No, You can’t do that for a class that is meant to be high risk -> high reward because that defeats the purpose of the high reward part.i don't rlly think he is fine where he is. I mean he can do his job for sure as a roamer, but it can definitely be balanced up. Just one tweak and he'll be perfect; a high risk - high reward class.
Using a shotgun isn’t a shameful tactic Imo, it’s just looked down upon because it isn’t the Mantreads. Plus the buff wouldn’t be able to compensate anything but, allowing him to get more of an advantage on others. The whole point of a high risk -> high reward play style is for the reason why it’s risky. It’s not supposed to be easy. Trolldier takes time to master and if you can master it then you shouldn’t be playing the class. All you have to do is bait people out and effectively rocket jump that’s it.You may suggest that i finish them off with a shotgun, but a shotgun secondary for trolldiers is very shameful. I tend to avoid it.
Stupid reasoning -- i know. but the buff wouldn't hurt, right? Trolldier is a very difficult class, and the buff will totally compensate for that difficulty.
I think it'll open up the trolldier class to fit in more of the meta
Than in that case shouldn’t spy be buffed because he has very low health and some weapons that put him at very low health and can only effectively kill people with back stabs and using his revolver? No, You can’t do that for a class that is meant to be high risk -> high reward because that defeats the purpose of the high reward part.
Using a shotgun isn’t a shameful tactic Imo, it’s just looked down upon because it isn’t the Mantreads. Plus the buff wouldn’t be able to compensate anything but, allowing him to get more of an advantage on others. The whole point of a high risk -> high reward play style is for the reason why it’s risky. It’s not supposed to be easy. Trolldier takes time to master and if you can master it then you shouldn’t be playing the class. All you have to do is bait people out and effectively rocket jump that’s it.
Btw trolldiers don’t have to play aggressively and I don’t think you understand the point of a high risk high reward play style because you still ask for the trolldier to be buffed when in all reality it doesn’t need to happen.Spy is very similar to the trolldier. Both can do great burst damage, and both are "high-risk high-reward".
The difference between them is the playstyle. The stereotypical spy uses mind-games (trickstabs) and sneaky tactics to pick off enemies, while on the other hand, trolldiers have a more confronting and aggressive playstyle. There are sooo many ways to counter trolldiers, which backs up the claim of "high-risk", and against players who know what they are doing, i say, shouldn't the trolldiers get the advantage?
Rocket jumping effectively to put yourself in shoveling range is how you master the class and learning when to swing the shovel or not or going all in or not. If you don’t get the hang of rocket jumping than you shouldn’t play the class that much because that’s they only way you are going to get crits. It’s by rocket jumping effectively.I'm also confused on when you said " trolldier takes time to master and if you can master it then you shouldn’t be playing the class". Can you elaborate on that?
Btw trolldiers don’t have to play aggressively and I don’t think you understand the point of a high risk high reward play style because you still ask for the trolldier to be buffed when in all reality it doesn’t need to happen.
Rocket jumping effectively to put yourself in shoveling range is how you master the class and learning when to swing the shovel or not or going all in or not. If you don’t get the hang of rocket jumping than you shouldn’t play the class that much because that’s they only way you are going to get crits. It’s by rocket jumping effectively.
read everything I've ever said in this thread plzjust gonna say, part of being trolldier is that fact that it's not a very viable class. that 5 health is a part of the game just get gud
don’t vote if you’re not willing to have an open mindi aint elaborating shit
trolldier is fine as-is and needs no changes and you may be one of the 6 people on wln who dont agree with that
buruh they are right get over itdon’t vote if you’re not willing to have an open mind
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Expected more from an ex-admin but idk man the world is stressful nowadays so I totally understand it
As in just get better and practice, theres no need for a buff.any updates on you two? I gave you my logic. now i'm waiting for your guys counter explanations. ty
can't agree that your mind is open because you're literally twisting all my words and ignoring everything. it's impossible to change your mind, karen.if you give people the option to say no and then give reason, and then you get upset that people dont agree, why make a thread in the first place, my mind is open, my third eye is too, and i can see theres nothing worth changing about it, end of
another example of a person who didn't bother to read.As in just get better and practice, theres no need for a buff.
the reward does not justify the skill. therefore, it is not satisfying and not rewarding to play trolldier, therefore, unfun.-1. A class required on skill. A subclass that can wipe people out in 1-2 shots required on skill does not require a buff. Trolldier is fun. That's the main purpose of it. Fun.
sure. will totally try : - )market garden then shot gun
your ignorance is killing me inside.buruh they are right get over it